Iphone Release Date?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/05/apple-ipho ... »
While everyone knows that the Apple iPhone is coming out in June, there has been a significant amount of speculation as to its precise date of release.
Apple has been elusive as usual on the matter, stating only that the phone is "scheduled to ship in late June." The Boy Genius Report received an interesting piece of information at our world headquarters today, and it may shed some light on the iPhone release date confusion.
According to an official letter sent to all corporate AT&T employees, the Apple iPhone launch will take place on June 15th with the launch period extended until the 15th of July.
AT&T isn't even approving their employees from taking...
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While everyone knows that the Apple iPhone is coming out in June, there has been a significant amount of speculation as to its precise date of release.
Apple has been elusive as usual on the matter, stating only that the phone is "scheduled to ship in late June." The Boy Genius Report received an interesting piece of information at our world headquarters today, and it may shed some light on the iPhone release date confusion.
According to an official letter sent to all corporate AT&T employees, the Apple iPhone launch will take place on June 15th with the launch period extended until the 15th of July.
AT&T isn't even approving their employees from taking...
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The reality is an iron-clad contract with Apple dictating the launch, so not even AT&T could screw this one up.
I seriously doubt that. The levels of incompetence that AT&T (Cingular) are capable of is astounding.
Remember their response (or lack thereof) to the illegal NSA Wire Tapping program?
Of course, if the Bush Administration has their way, the telecommunications industry will receive immunity for violating the rights of possibly millions.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070504-bush-a ... »
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The issue of whether any of this behavior was legal is not important. The government has already argued that legali
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Don't want to be overheard when you are calling a phone sex chat line?
Also it was illegal until they received a warrant from the justice department 72 hours after they started...they may seem like a long time but is common when the case of probable cause has arisen.
And honestly I could care less if anyone is tapping my calls, because if you are doing something illegal where attention is brought to you, using a mobile phone is about the stupidest thing you could possibly do, besides doing something illegal in the first place.
Also it was illegal until they received a warrant from the justice department 72 hours after they started...they may seem like a long time but is common when the case of probable cause has arisen.
And honestly I could care less if anyone is tapping my calls, because if you are doing something illegal where attention is brought to you, using a mobile phone is about the stupidest thing you could possibly do, besides doing something illegal in the first place.
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In other words, "If you aren't doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about."
While, I believe, your statements demonstrate a profound lack of understanding and ignorance on the principles our country was founded on (assuming your an American), I can not help but also wonder how you can assert such a thing considering the blatant abuses of power that have been perpetrated against the American people on under the guise of security and the cloak of terrorism.
Bruce Schneier has eloquently drafted a rebuttal for such nonsensical arguments.
The Eternal Value of Privacy
Brush Schneier, 05.18.06 | 2:00 AM
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/se ... »
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While, I believe, your statements demonstrate a profound lack of understanding and ignorance on the principles our country was founded on (assuming your an American), I can not help but also wonder how you can assert such a thing considering the blatant abuses of power that have been perpetrated against the American people on under the guise of security and the cloak of terrorism.
Bruce Schneier has eloquently drafted a rebuttal for such nonsensical arguments.
The Eternal Value of Privacy
Brush Schneier, 05.18.06 | 2:00 AM
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/se ... »
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Why don't you try using your own work, first of all.
Secondly, yes I am an American, both sides of my family are about as Anglo-Saxon you can get, with a couple of ethnic groups in there as well.
Both sides are members of Sons and Daughters of the Texas and American Revolution, with my dad side being members of the Sons Of Liberty.
And I know the exact type of person you are, the type that actually thinks out of over 300 million, the US Government would actually give two Rats Arses about you, or what you are doing...no one cares what you are doing as long as you are not doing anything against this country.
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Secondly, yes I am an American, both sides of my family are about as Anglo-Saxon you can get, with a couple of ethnic groups in there as well.
Both sides are members of Sons and Daughters of the Texas and American Revolution, with my dad side being members of the Sons Of Liberty.
And I know the exact type of person you are, the type that actually thinks out of over 300 million, the US Government would actually give two Rats Arses about you, or what you are doing...no one cares what you are doing as long as you are not doing anything against this country.
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😳 Wow.
I always wondered if one of the fabled "28%" (they seem to be in hiding nowadays) could defend their positions that directly contradicts the constitution and not have to employ the tactics of terrorists in order to get their point across. I see now, that for some, it is not possible.
Much of your rambling does not even broach the subject of the intrusion on privacy and the rights of citizen's.
Instead you chose to try to use fear to force submission by saying terrorism exists, therefore we must submit to what those in authority dictate.
I honestly do not know how to respond much further to your post as it only threatens.
I did find some things interesting though:
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I always wondered if one of the fabled "28%" (they seem to be in hiding nowadays) could defend their positions that directly contradicts the constitution and not have to employ the tactics of terrorists in order to get their point across. I see now, that for some, it is not possible.
Much of your rambling does not even broach the subject of the intrusion on privacy and the rights of citizen's.
Instead you chose to try to use fear to force submission by saying terrorism exists, therefore we must submit to what those in authority dictate.
I honestly do not know how to respond much further to your post as it only threatens.
I did find some things interesting though:
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read up on FDR and while he was pres
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OK OK OK!!!! sorry... umm you have to pic up an old copy of the New centuries for american defenses last Brochure... which had the twin towers in cross hairs... wow... you so far off base... and bring WW2 into this? read up on Sino-American relations before you talk... and about how the US force thru "Agressive Diplomacy" force japan out of the allies, then after cutting of every economic or diplomatic path for the country to maintain health societal and economic growth, started financial embargo's when japan went out and took what they wanted... it's no better than the CIA using the mujahedin to fight a guerilla war against communism.... and then dropped them like a bad habit and left them to extremist right islam... #2 watch Loose change, ...
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Well Clinton should be listened to and all because damn, 1993, 1996, 1998, and 2000 he could have done something after Bin Laden did but he didn't so here we are now. Maybe he should have listened to his own advice.
You sound like a friend of mine...a pathetic soul that doesn't realize his pessimistic attitude is driving away all his friends...but I am assuming you have some lol.
This is the last response I will have on your comments because you obviously have no life where you can write a novel and its honestly hard to sift through such opinionated crap.
And it isn't using fear to say terrorism does exist, we are the last country in a long line that has had to live through it.
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You sound like a friend of mine...a pathetic soul that doesn't realize his pessimistic attitude is driving away all his friends...but I am assuming you have some lol.
This is the last response I will have on your comments because you obviously have no life where you can write a novel and its honestly hard to sift through such opinionated crap.
And it isn't using fear to say terrorism does exist, we are the last country in a long line that has had to live through it.
But since it seems you already know me from "that ...
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Seriously, with your Sons of Liberty reference, your rambling, your fear mongering, inability to hold a rational conversation, and your desire for Texas to secede from Union; you've pretty much met and exceeded most stereotypes of Texas.
That's not a good thing btw.
I hate to break the news to you, but you are never going to own slaves again, no matter how fondly you remember the 'good ole days'.
Seriously, with your Sons of Liberty reference, your rambling, your fear mongering, inability to hold a rational conversation, and your desire for Texas to secede from Union; you've pretty much met and exceeded most stereotypes of Texas.
That's not a good thing btw.
I hate to break the news to you, but you are never going to own slaves again, no matter how fondly you remember the 'good ole days'.
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Wow I kinda have to respond to the slavery accusation, because when I said that I had other ethnic groups mixed in with my Anglo Saxon Family, I guess I should have been more specific and said A LOT of my family is Cherokee Indian, on both sides, i was just blessed to have an Anglo Saxon name, because my dark hair and dark skin (but blue eyes) is a dead give away im not 100% white, so don't talk about Slavery and the good ole days like everyone down here is like that. Any where west of I 45 and you get called a white trash redneck for waving a confederate flag.
Yeah, Texas should secede from the Union because it would be a lot more successful economically especially in regards to Energy and Defense, and not to mention Electronics. I cou...
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Perhaps you should do more research on what the 'Sons of Liberty' are and stand for before proudly declaring some affiliation with them.
As for Texas... what would you like to discuss about it?
The deplorable double standards in the judicial system for non-whites to this day?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0 ... »
The rush to executions without due process? Afterall, 131 inmates were executed under George Bush as governor, and 43 of these inmates were represented by attorneys who at some point had been disbarred, suspeneded, or otherwise sanctioned by the Texas Bar Association.
The fear of sexual education and cancer related vaccines because of the fear of promiscuity.
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As for Texas... what would you like to discuss about it?
The deplorable double standards in the judicial system for non-whites to this day?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0 ... »
The rush to executions without due process? Afterall, 131 inmates were executed under George Bush as governor, and 43 of these inmates were represented by attorneys who at some point had been disbarred, suspeneded, or otherwise sanctioned by the Texas Bar Association.
The fear of sexual education and cancer related vaccines because of the fear of promiscuity.
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someone who thinks radioshack would be a good source of economics as a country has serious mental problems
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schlittertex said:
You sound like a friend of mine...a pathetic soul that doesn't realize his pessimistic attitude is driving away all his friends...but I am assuming you have some lol.
Being rational in Texas can instill feelings of persistant misery. He should move.
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Being rational in Texas can instill feelings of persistant misery. He should move.
That's... pretty accurate. Dang.
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*sidenote... who do you think staged the attacks in beirut? considering months before those occasions (and repeatedly throughout the past 3 decades) israely nationals have been caught in those locations as well as a few other mentionables(centcom in florida being one) with detailed schematics and access information, in each case they have been removed quietly either deported, or removed and hushed back over to israel... no prosecution on any charge... and the israel government has never been called to responsiblity on the matter... you need to get your facts... because there's a reason they want everybody thinking those crazy arabs are gonna kill us all....
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AND MORE TO POINT!! did you ever pay attention to the assemblies of the house during the clinton administration? how 3 times, he had ability(and thew knowledge) to wipe osama and half of al-qaeda's leadership off the face of the earth? and when he a man who maintained accountability for his actions(right down to when he was bs'ed into disgrace)... brought this before congress, instead of just pulling a george bush and plunging the country into war without concern... was struck down by a republican majority house... you say we haven't acted on known circumstances, i say power grabbing and petty disputes between factions have prevented the right people, from acting in best interests of this country(because it wouldn't benefit their party..)......
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last point, "radical islam" is the worst buzz phrase since, "the red menace" stupid americans...
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Aw, but "Red Menace" was such a convenient & cool term for all those evil Commies. 😉
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I don't know which one to respond to, I suggest taking some blood thinners, one of your ventricles is going to explode.
oh yeah sorry SIDE NOTE...
people start blaming others when they are thrown into the lions den themselves.
oh yeah sorry SIDE NOTE...
people start blaming others when they are thrown into the lions den themselves.
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hold the phone, if you want a debate on religion take it to the lounge. It is very unwise to point fingers at muslims. Being a christian you put us all on very thin ice when you attack one.
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I'd also encourage to view/read the following:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/olbermanns- ... »
Terrorism is now a political tool.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/olbermanns- ... »
Terrorism is now a political tool.
Rudolph W. Giuliani speaking to a forum about crime in the cities, sponsored by The New York Post.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E ... »
Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
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Plooky, have you ever seen Good Will Hunting? You remind me of the blond Harvard guy in the bar. Well rounded and educated, but completely unable to come up with a stance of his own. All I have seen you post are snippets and links to someone else's articles. A fifteen year old could google up tech articles, find a "smart" or "edgy" sounding one, and paste it on a forum.
To me your more like a "Tech Article Ticker" than an actualy person. When responding to your posts I'm not sure whether I should respond to you, or just send an email to whoever's article you posted....
To me your more like a "Tech Article Ticker" than an actualy person. When responding to your posts I'm not sure whether I should respond to you, or just send an email to whoever's article you posted....
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I'll never understood positions like yours.
Being able to cite sources of information and using information in context is not something I frown upon.
Having an opinion and having no clear source for the information you base your opinion on is something I frown upon.
Either way, I won't refrain from posting information that supports the context of my statements.
Especially when that information, more then likely, does a better job at the expression of an idea then I am capable of.
Being able to cite sources of information and using information in context is not something I frown upon.
Having an opinion and having no clear source for the information you base your opinion on is something I frown upon.
Either way, I won't refrain from posting information that supports the context of my statements.
Especially when that information, more then likely, does a better job at the expression of an idea then I am capable of.
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I'll never understood positions like yours.
My point exactly, I could not have stated it any better!
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Question - I am a newbie at the business but I overheard a conversation about the iphone and wanted some clarification. Is it true that the wifi may be taken off the iphone? From what I heard apple, att and the federal regulations people are in an argument over the wifi and the battery life. Something about the wifi using up the battery or something like that. Any truth to this? where would be the best place to find information like this?
Thanks
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Sure WiFi would drain the battery...anything requiring power would.. ie radio.. But I sincerely doubt it will get pulled from the phone..it needs that considering it lacks 3G.. and I believe Apple patented some sort of sync via WiFi .. And Jobs already said it would have wifi.. the one in the demos on the site is using it.. everything points to it be in there..
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the debate about pulling WiFi has more to do with people not subscribing the Cingular data (MEdia-Net) then it does battery life.
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Well, it would seem to me that the demo for this device at 4 or 5 hundred would be the type to pick up a medianet plan.. and the lack of Wi-Fi would hurt sales. I doubt Apple/Jobs budges one iota on that.. they(cingy) are in a tough spot. Why piss off potential customers because they "might" not want an overpriced data plan..
That being said..I hardly think its a real debate and unless hell freezes over, it will have WiFi when released.
I really wish there was some other national GSM/UMTS carrier to force them to compete..
That being said..I hardly think its a real debate and unless hell freezes over, it will have WiFi when released.
I really wish there was some other national GSM/UMTS carrier to force them to compete..
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The version of the handset submitted to the FCC for approval did not have WiFi.
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Phonescoop.
It was on their front news page that the approved version of the iPhone did not have WiFi.
It was on their front news page that the approved version of the iPhone did not have WiFi.
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Really? when? I could not find it in any articles in the archives from jan-today.. wierd
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https://www.phonescoop.com/2007_04_01.php »
Yes, I am retarded. Thanks to Rich and others for allowing me to continue their joke far after April 1st.
Good one guys.
Yes, I am retarded. Thanks to Rich and others for allowing me to continue their joke far after April 1st.
Good one guys.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN WE PLEASE PUT THIS THING TO REST ALREADY , THE IPHONE WILL HAVE WIFI , THE ARTICLE ABOUT IT NOT HAVING WIFI WAS A APRIL FOOLS JOKE PHONESCOOP DOES IT EVERY YEAR LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE , NUFF SAID !!! 🙄 😳
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I am looking for a link now. I could be mistaken and Engadget was the source.
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Haha.
That question stumps Texaswireless all the time.
After not being able to find any source, the next course of action is to invite you to Lubbock. 🤣
That question stumps Texaswireless all the time.
After not being able to find any source, the next course of action is to invite you to Lubbock. 🤣
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Thanks for linking that for me. Saved me the extra steps to do it myself.
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Why piss off potential customers because they "might" not want an overpriced data plan..
1. Piss of customers, no wifi
2. Force overpriced data plans
3. Profit!
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captainplooky said:
Why piss off potential customers because they "might" not want an overpriced data plan..
1. Piss of customers, no wifi
2. Force overpriced data plans
3. Profit!
It will have wi-fi...
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html »
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I was just pointing that out.
I have no desire for an Iphone and hope it fails miserably for several reasons.
I have no desire for an Iphone and hope it fails miserably for several reasons.
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it won't because it will be so different. people are making a big deal out of it not being 3G, but it doesn't need to be. with just the new touch screen and voicemail and motion sensor is good enough.
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Other than just be a mean, bitter person why would you want something to fail that hard working folks have put in countless hours of efforts. Don't you like innovation? Don't you like competition?
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Don't you like innovation? Don't you like competition?
Yes I do, which is precisely why I do not like the Wireless Industry in its present form.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070214-8839.html »
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Now a new paper by Columbia law professor Tim Wu suggests that conditions in the wireless network are not as rosy as generally supposed. Wu's study is sponsored by the New America Foundation, a Washington think tank. It will be presented at a workshop being held yesterday and today by the Federal Trade Commission.
Wu criticizes the "oligopoly" of four major wireless carriers—Verizon, AT&T, Sprint/Nextel, and T-Mobile—for engaging in the same types of anticompetitive behaviors seen in the d
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You can regurgitate, yes you can.
Apple is making an innovative phone for the World Market, not just the United States. You said you wanted that to fail miserably.
I don't need to look up the thoughts of others to point out your venom, thanks.
Apple is making an innovative phone for the World Market, not just the United States. You said you wanted that to fail miserably.
I don't need to look up the thoughts of others to point out your venom, thanks.
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Back to insults I see.
That's probably for the best as it appears you have quite the difficulty with utilizing your reading comprehension skills and applying them in relevant ways to discussions.
Back to insults I see.
That's probably for the best as it appears you have quite the difficulty with utilizing your reading comprehension skills and applying them in relevant ways to discussions.
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What's the matter? Can't form your OWN opinion? Why do you want a phone designed for a WORLDWIDE market, with significant innovations in form and function, to fail?
EVERYONE here knows how much you hate AT&T. Answer this question outside the realm of the carrier and into the realm of electronics and innovation.
EVERYONE here knows how much you hate AT&T. Answer this question outside the realm of the carrier and into the realm of electronics and innovation.
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Based on your prior comments of innovation and competition in regards to carriers, more specifically the Iphone, it is painfully apparent you are discussing matters that are far outside your daily reading and general intellectual scope.
While I'm sure your marketing materials are bright and interesting, you might come to realize they lack substantial information.
There is nothing innovative about the Iphone. It's simply a phone with the same technology as all other comparable phones, but with a different brand name. The same electronic components from other phones, like the Samsung CPU and GPU from the Blackjack.
Innovation? Perhaps you could claim that with the software, but even that would be stretching the truth.
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While I'm sure your marketing materials are bright and interesting, you might come to realize they lack substantial information.
There is nothing innovative about the Iphone. It's simply a phone with the same technology as all other comparable phones, but with a different brand name. The same electronic components from other phones, like the Samsung CPU and GPU from the Blackjack.
Innovation? Perhaps you could claim that with the software, but even that would be stretching the truth.
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I ask this b/c the Ipod had nothing more than any other MP3 player besides a "nifty" scroll wheel and a groundbreaking new style. Yet many tech writers and editors of tech magazines consider it one of the most innovative products in the last 20 years. It revolutionized the MP3 player market - do you think Microsoft would have focused so much on packing the Zune with so many "new" features if the Ipod didnt have a lion's share of the MP3 market wrapped up?
I see (as do many tech experts) the Iphone as the same thing. While it may not have any groundbreaking new technology, it does incorporate several things that are not widespread at this time, i.e. touchscreen, visual voicemail, accelerometer, proximity sensor to detect when you lift the...
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I see (as do many tech experts) the Iphone as the same thing. While it may not have any groundbreaking new technology, it does incorporate several things that are not widespread at this time, i.e. touchscreen, visual voicemail, accelerometer, proximity sensor to detect when you lift the...
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clap, clap, clap
Great response.
Had I said something similar it would have been shot down as biased I am sure.
You are right, there are significant capabilities that make this phone unique and will force the other manufacturers to take notice.
The ONLY reason he wants it to fail is that he DOESN'T want AT&T to find a success. The sad part is that should this product succeed Apple could have the pricing/brand power to launch a line of handsets that do not require carrier store purchase to get the best price (my idea on the matter, some agree, some don't). That would in turn force consumers to rethink their purchase choices. Consumers, not the carriers, have the power to change the U.S. handset market. Consumers, not legislati...
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Great response.
Had I said something similar it would have been shot down as biased I am sure.
You are right, there are significant capabilities that make this phone unique and will force the other manufacturers to take notice.
The ONLY reason he wants it to fail is that he DOESN'T want AT&T to find a success. The sad part is that should this product succeed Apple could have the pricing/brand power to launch a line of handsets that do not require carrier store purchase to get the best price (my idea on the matter, some agree, some don't). That would in turn force consumers to rethink their purchase choices. Consumers, not the carriers, have the power to change the U.S. handset market. Consumers, not legislati...
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Now while this phone will not revolutionize the industry by itself, it will force Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and all the other major manufacterers to continue to innovate their own lines to stay ahead.
I agree.
The biggest thing keeping the United States from a more "open" cell phone industry isn't cell phone carriers, its the customers.
I disagree.
I was asked my opinion on what I didn't like, and I gave it.
With the exception of Visual Voicemail (which required an infrastructure software overhaul as I understand), the Iphone incorporates selected off the shelf technology to meet its required form factor.
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Your premise is that carriers so tightly control the cell phone market that it stifles competition and whatnot, correct?
So, tell me why more consumers, given the choice, do not choose to do a one year or no contract plan when available?
You say you disagree with the premise that consumers drive the industry. I say consumers have some choice in the matter and do not make the choice for no contract plans. Cingular offers no contract plans (w/o free MTM, available for an extra $9.99) yet we don't sell them at all. My employees are fully aware of this option and explain to consumers their options in the matter. There is no need to make the argument that many do not know it is availble, as I agree. But taking a sample size of my store...
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So, tell me why more consumers, given the choice, do not choose to do a one year or no contract plan when available?
You say you disagree with the premise that consumers drive the industry. I say consumers have some choice in the matter and do not make the choice for no contract plans. Cingular offers no contract plans (w/o free MTM, available for an extra $9.99) yet we don't sell them at all. My employees are fully aware of this option and explain to consumers their options in the matter. There is no need to make the argument that many do not know it is availble, as I agree. But taking a sample size of my store...
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I would disagree with your disagreement, the American Consumer is keeping the cell phone industry down...especially when it comes to technology, and people are ok with a cell phone being a cell phone when it can be much much more.
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Do wireless tubes need to be neutral too?
By Tim Lee | Published: February 14, 2007 - 07:59AM CT
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070214-8839.html »
As the debate over network neutrality regulations has raged over the last year, the focus has been on wired networks, and especially the "last mile" in residential broadband networks. Commentators on both sides have tended to hold up the cell phone market as an example of the kind of fiercely competitive and vibrant market that's made possible by real competition.
Now a new paper by Columbia law professor Tim Wu suggests that conditions in the wireless network are not as rosy as generally supposed. Wu's study is sponsored by the New America Foundation, a Washington thin...
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By Tim Lee | Published: February 14, 2007 - 07:59AM CT
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070214-8839.html »
As the debate over network neutrality regulations has raged over the last year, the focus has been on wired networks, and especially the "last mile" in residential broadband networks. Commentators on both sides have tended to hold up the cell phone market as an example of the kind of fiercely competitive and vibrant market that's made possible by real competition.
Now a new paper by Columbia law professor Tim Wu suggests that conditions in the wireless network are not as rosy as generally supposed. Wu's study is sponsored by the New America Foundation, a Washington thin...
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A nice regurgitation, but here is where I think you're wrong - If its the cell phone carriers who are truly holding up the process, not the consumers, as Wu contends, where is the public outrage? Where are the customer's demanding change? If 100 million consumers said "Hey, we aren't taking the status quo anymore," change would happen in an instant.
But yet after all Wu points out about the shortcomings of various carriers, they still continue to add customers every year. Where's the outrage over Verizon's crippling of the bluetooth function on their devices? Where's the outrage over Verizon's and at&t's limited 3G services? Where's the outrage over sms update delays? You know where the outrage is? Its in these types of forums, put forth...
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But yet after all Wu points out about the shortcomings of various carriers, they still continue to add customers every year. Where's the outrage over Verizon's crippling of the bluetooth function on their devices? Where's the outrage over Verizon's and at&t's limited 3G services? Where's the outrage over sms update delays? You know where the outrage is? Its in these types of forums, put forth...
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You are vastly oversimplifying the issues at hand.
The current state of wireless is eerily similar to the Broadband Scandal.
https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
I thought we moved past this childish straw-man attack.
The current state of wireless is eerily similar to the Broadband Scandal.
https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
A nice regurgitation...
I thought we moved past this childish straw-man attack.
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captainplooky said:
A nice regurgitation...
I thought we moved past this childish straw-man attack.
Check you times Plooky, this was posted before my other post. As usual, you missed the entire point of my post - Why must a consumer rights group be the ones who push for change? If consumers were truly worried about their pocketbooks and rights being trampled, they would be in the streets demanding change! But the sad fact is the average consumer does not interest himself with the "details." Too many Americans simply pay a bill and are content with what they are provided. Have you ever seen the movie "Reign of Fire?" One of the lines in it goes like this: "Hail to the count ...
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agreed. if american's didn't continue to buy the same old crippled non functional out of date technology over and over again then carrier's would be forced to present new up to date technology to the consumer for purchase. If people stop buying what your selling then you need to change what your selling.
keep buying the same old crap and they'll keep selling the same old crap.
keep buying the same old crap and they'll keep selling the same old crap.
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It's true that the story about Apple pulling WiFi from the iPhone came out on April 1. That is true and yes, it's been a known 'fact' since April 1st. 😛
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Yes this is true I just got back from vacation and we will not be able to get pto from June 15th-July 15th. The official release date will be June 15th, but dont expect to get one, these will go FAST!
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